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Modern science has busted many traditional thinking and beliefs but there is one ancient Chinese practice that has been around for thousands of years ago and it certainly is irreplaceable. This belief is known as Feng Shui. The basic concept is to harmonize our surroundings to improvise living, and with real estate being so deeply connected to our everyday life, Feng Shui and its contributions became an unignorable factor for the industry.
This episode with Allen Kong is undoubtedly a fun ride to the unconventional side of the real estate world. Starting from the basics of Feng Shui to its elements, we learn its necessity and the logic behind the concept.
- What does Feng Shui actually mean?
- How does Feng Shui relate to real estate?
- What kind of impact can it have on real estate?
- How does Feng Shui help and why is it so important?
- Can it really improvise living?
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Feng Shui: Feng Shui is a Chinese term that has a literal meaning of Wind and Water. It is an ancient Chinese belief of getting the natural energy flow properly balanced in our personal space to enhance living.
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Darren: So Hey Allen, how’s it going?
Allen:Good, I just want to check if the lighting is fine, you can see my face properly and everything is in frame.
Darren: Yeah, yeah it looks perfect.
Allen: Okay, great. Because just now I’m just trying to test the light level you know, because the sky was getting dark a little bit, so I’m just trying to use natural lighting.
Darren: That’s fine. Yeah, thanks for coming to the show. And today’s very special, because I think a lot of people will look at the title like, “Hey, Feng Shui in real estate.” And it’s something that everyone will have questions about because a lot of people believe in it and other people can doubt it. It’s the people I’m definitely curious about. So I’m really happy that you’re here.
Allen: Thanks for having me today. I’ll try to answer as many questions as possible. I know you have a tight schedule, So let’s go with it.
Darren: No, it’s totally fine. And, so I want to ask first, right. How many years have you been practicing Feng Shui?
Allen: I’ve been doing this for 17 years and coincidentally I started in 2003 when it was the year SARS started. So I took some leave you know and then I took a course and I never thought I could actually grasp this idea because I have a technical background from airlines. But here I am after 17 years.
Darren: Wow. Okay, that’s I mean, 17 that’s a long time actually. So for a beginner right, who is interested in Feng Shui, like how you explain Feng Shui to them in a very simple way?
Allen: Feng Shui is basically a study and observation of the environment. So I mean, it’s about 6000-3000 years in Chinese history. So it’s basically gathering data, observation of the weather, geography. And actually, we put a lot of elements of the animals and also the five elements.
Darren: Would you mind telling the audience more about the five elements?
Allen: Yeah, you have the water, fire, metal, earth and wood. So these are the five basic elements which combine compound with the Feng Shui. So we always like to calculate and make the harmony of all the five elements. So if you have too much water that’s not good. For example, if there is too much fire then it’s too hot. So we want the five elements to be in synchronization and harmony.
Darren: Okay, well, I have a real estate investor background. And I’m curious, right? How does Feng Shui impact real estate and why does a landlord or homeowner need to understand more about it?
Allen: Well, really good question Darren because Feng Shui to me and to many Feng Shui practitioners are and is actually real estate because it’s for people to purchase a home, of course we mentioned about harmonizing. You know, so you want the five elements to work for you, not against you. So for us to go to a property we look at a site as if it’s too bright.
Allen: Even if we count a smell, a bit too smelly then that’s bad Feng Shui. Okay, places too windy, you know, or all kinds of stuff just having to wonder how to harmonize it. So we want to balance out all the five elements. For example, let’s talk about water because Feng Shui to the Chinese, soil means water. And water means wealth and health. And also because a lot of big cities, if you observe big cities, they’re always located near a big body of water. For example, New York, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Vancouver, Toronto, San Francisco all these big cities, Sydney, London, you know have a big river that cuts across that means a lot of water go through it so that means wealth and health to those people who live in those areas will congregate and do well. So this is what the basic concept of how I tell my clients of why they should observe these elements.
Darren: I see that’s kind of interesting.
Darren: What kind of tips do you have for the audience to know their current condition of their space? If that’s the case?
Allen:Well, tips I mean, there’s thousands of books out there in the internet and bookstores and stuff, but basically tips is to observe if you have, like, for example, I put up a photograph the other day, which you see here.
Darren: Oh, that’s cool.
Allen: Yeah, this is one thing I bring out because the other day I was just looking at this property the other day and I saw a huge high power tension tower next to a property. By the way, this is UK, so I took this as a reference. So this place just has this huge high power cable and you have strong electricity current going through, although the scientific world scientists say there is no interference on health into human, but for us I think the other way because you have what they call the electromagnetic field the EMF which you don’t see, but it’s an energy. So like Feng Shui we’re talking about energy you talk about invisible energy, you know when the thing goes through your body, you don’t even know it. And that’s something you should observe. So for me, I would say move away from it especially if you are a fire person. You know, if you say I have a strong sign of a fire, you know, you don’t want to have a clash with this high power attention line because this electricity means fire, so you want to—
Darren: so I mean, like that’s definitely interesting because, you know, in my head right away, if it’s an industrial building that does data or something that requires a lot energy, that’s very efficient. So I was like looking at it and I was like “That shouldn’t be a house, there shouldn’t be anyone living there. If anything it should be like, you know a data center or some kind of business oriented place that requires a very low cost of electricity and you know , like electricity and stuff like that. It was kind of cool. So if that’s the case—
Allen: Yeah but— sorry, sometimes there’s an exception to this because if a professional says that you need fire, you know, some professionals represent fires. So you want, if you have a lack of these, it’s no problem. But over a majority avoid this high power attention line because they are what we know already, it’s cancer prone.
Darren: Ah, okay.
Allen: Yeah. So I wouldn’t put my family under high electricity if you ask me
Darren: I get it, Yeah. So what are some things that like, let’s say the audience kind of knows that, you know, something’s going on or something is not doing well. In the Feng Shui for real estate for example, how can the audience help their own space.
Allen:Normally, when I visit a premise or a property, I would look at the setting. So if say, for example, a residential, so the most important thing is the place that you spend most of the time. So we go to the bedroom first. So you sleep for six to eight hours presumably, and you spent a few hours there. So I go into the bedroom and have a look at the bed setting. And some people doesn’t have the natural instinct as well of where they should sleep. So I go and sort of jiggle around and see what I can do with a bed. If it’s in the wrong position, the wrong spot, I will tell them let’s change it to a different spot and especially for places like Hong Kong where the rooms are small. Another tip here, a lot of problem with Hong Kong’s apartments is that the bathroom door faces the room of course but convenience but on the other hand it has a negative effect because the bathroom door faces your bed, that’s bad. That’s really bad for health—
Darren: So, sorry about that so in that case right because I’m sure it’s because like right away a lot of my friends have like bedroom facing a bathroom for example right what kind of the things would you do for that situation?
Allen: Okay that’s when I have to go visit a site and look at where the bed is facing relative to the compass, so I have to pull out like one of these, Feng Shui compass
Darren: Oh okay
Allen: which there is no one quick fix rule to have a bathroom facing your bed. So I have to go in and check which direction your door is facing. So, this is getting a little more technical, but generally, I would say If you don’t have me to visit your house, close the door of the bathroom.
Darren: I see.
Allen: And then, of course, for hygiene reasons, also close the lid off of the can.
Darren: I’m sure like since the virus situation, right? I’m sure everyone’s very concerned about that. So it’s not only Feng Shui for a cleanliness point of view, I think that’s very good that you mentioned that. So like, you know just now you mentioned a lot of things where you have elements, you have direction of the place, how the interaction with different buildings work and so on. Do you have any clients that have like a scientific background, but still believe in Feng Shui and also too I’m kind of curious, for yourself a scientific background too you know, why do you think that people who have a scientific background will also understand about Feng Shui and want to know more about it?
Allen:It’s funny when I have people with technical background or scientific background, if you will, they sometimes encounter problems. Which science cannot you know, explain, like I know a person in real life. Holding a technical background, highly educated. He came to me and said: “Hi, I have a health issue.” So I said: “Well, let me have a look at your property.” So he invited me there. And when I stepped into his bathroom I told him, “I could see that you have kidney problems or lower body problems,” then he said: “ Wow, how did you know that?” because I looked at his bathroom, It was built very nicely, beautiful, but it was transparent.
Darren: Oh okay,
Allen: You know, a lot of these interior designers nowadays would like to— it has a good effect to look bigger. You know, if you have a transparent glass, bathroom, it looks sexy. You know, it looks airy,
Allen: but for us, it’s taboo. And especially for that purpose for, kidney problems, and ladies also, will share the same problem. Unfortunately, he took the blunt instead of his wife, so I said cover it up, cover all this glass up or knock it down and rebuild it with bricks. I came back a few months later, problem solved.
Darren: Really? Wow, that’s kind of cool.
Allen: I mean if you have a problem or stuff like this you’re going to see Western Doctor who’ll prescribe you medicine, that’s a scientific way to solve a problem. But then I am looking at this problem with another approach. I mean, how would you like to look at yourself in a covered bedroom when you’re doing your business every day? It’s not really cool, so that’s one case.
Darren: I see. Like, also thinking just now too right, when you mentioned a lot about people living there, right. And obviously, you know, we’re coming from like a real estate background, that there’s a difference between living there and owning it. So is it different when it comes to living in that area or owning it. What’s the difference behind that? Does that affect each other or like just kind of curious how does that intertwine together?
Allen: If you are living in that property, whether you are leasing the property or the owner, you know, say you bought a place even under mortgage, if the house is under your name, either on a lease agreement or a sales and purchase it belongs to you, not a landlord.
Darren: Oh okay,
Allen: So a lot of people say: “Oh, I own a place in Vancouver.” So in my subject to that Feng Shui is that if you are staying in that house in Vancouver, then yes, you are. But you say you know, “I’m living in New York, and I have a tenant that is using that Vancouver property,” so that property cannot tap into the good or bad stuff of the property in terms of Feng Shui yeah, so it depends on where you sign if your name is on the lease agreement that is legally yours.
Darren: That’s really cool because like, I know this is like our third or fourth conversation together and whenever I talk to you there’s so much that I never thought of and obviously right I’m half skeptical and my family, we believe in Feng Shui as well. So same time, it’s like, you know what, I can see it’s not only about, you know, turning belief it’s about the feeling of it. And then it seems like this is something that people keep forgetting that, you know, there are lot of things that are for example scientific maybe happens you know hacker down yet and it’s something that’s very interesting in my mind that I always want to wonder, you know, so I wonder too like for yourself right cause you do all these kind of like connotations, like you know, virtually since everyone’s in COVID-19 lockdown mode, how do you do Feng Shui right now? Like do you go to someone’s place to assess the property or can you do virtual viewings?
Allen: Interesting nowadays where everyone is in isolation or majority of the people are in isolation even though you want to invite, you get invited to a house, I would say don’t because you know, you never know the risk. So now we do this on a remote basis. And I’ve done a couple of these virtual inspections. Like the other day I had a Australian client, he’s building a house in North Sydney.
Allen: So he showed me, he sent me a floor plan. Of course he did his homework, you know, it’s a bit more sophisticated just by just compared to talking on the phone. So he sent me the floor plan, compass, reading and all so on. And then I looked at the floor plan and I can analyze from there from a top view but also he has done a lot of videos so you can shoot videos and send them to me. And I can analyze from that screenshot of, you know how much information I can get it from that screenshot. But however, I must say there are limitations without me being there. So I would say I would discount that by maybe 30 to 40% accurate.
Darren: I see.
Allen: But of course, he worked with me for a long time. So you know, he’s been feeding me a lot of information and so, I can study and analyze, and I gave him my advice, my recommendation. So to answer your question. Yes, it is possible, of course, to do it remotely.
Darren: I see. I think I feel like in my head right now, there’s some technology right now that have AI or some kind of like virtual viewing. And obviously, hopefully time gets better and better. It seems like this is a service that is actually scalable, it doesn’t have to be like a traditional way where you have to walk into a place but obviously it will take some time, like maybe 10 years from now we can do that.
Allen: You’re actually right because with technology nowadays we can use cameras, cell phones, AI’s, the only thing I cannot do is smell. It’s like I mentioned earlier on the initial recording bad smells is actually a bad Feng Shui. So I can’t do that. But it has to rely on the person on the site to beat me with information. So the more information they give me, the more I can digest.
Darren: I see. So let’s say for example, this case, right? If it’s a smell thing, right? Let’s say it smells terrible, like it can be the bedroom or something. So in this scenario, does that mean that if you can get rid of the smell or cover it with a different smell, it would be better? Like, how would you suggest that?
Allen: Yeah. We always try to use a method as natural as possible to neutralize this thing. You know, maybe there is a problem with your neighbor, you know, so he’s causing a problem. So we go next to him and say it’s this? Cause you know, you’re not going to say, too bad. I get a house smell. But you will say “Yeah I think we have a problem, you know as a neighbor.” So we know because bad means something is rotten, and it could have health issues or for the sake of the neighborhood, you know, let’s raise concern and then let’s clean this out together.
Darren: You know, in real estate world, right, there’s something called rights of light or rights of way. That means like, if let’s say, for your asset, your property, something happened that neighbor does that covers your light, you can actually ask for compensation or I say, if you built something that actually intervenes the way you go to places before so maybe, you know, this can be a new thing. It can be the right to smell you know, you’re kind of ruining my asset because your smells bad and the Feng Shui got worse and stuff like that. I mean, it’s a cool idea, just having that in my head just now.
Allen:That’s like some— I think there’s a law in Hong Kong if your air conditioning is dripping water on your neighbors building they can actually sue you. So it’s not just that Feng Shui, it’s illegal.
Darren:Yeah. Okay, so also I remember like the last call we had on the phone, you said that this years bad spots or east and south. Like what does that mean? Is something that’s been in my head for so long. I just wanted to ask you for a long time now.
Allen: Because for me when I learned Feng Shui, there’s one thing we call the flying star. It’s like some voodoo idea but it’s real. Flying Stars basically, this thing changes every year. This year, the bad star, it’s in the east. So why does it matter what it means? It could mean natural disasters and in this year’s terms, it’s pandemic.
Darren: I see.
Allen:So the Covid-19 started early this year in China. So if you look at the world map, China is on the list. And I was telling my clients and friends and said, I hope this will never travel overseas. If it goes through overseas, look at Tokyo, Tokyo is east. And then earlier on, Tokyo was hit with this cruise ship and its spread around Tokyo city. And then second, you look at the other cases where Korea was hit. Okay, and I never noticed this place Daegu was actually at the very Eastern quadrant of Korea, South Korea. And not to mention, currently New York had a bad hit. Why not Vancouver. Vancouver’s on the west. So Vancouver’s hit is bad but not as bad as New York City cause New York if you look at the North American continent, it’s right at the eastern quarter. Okay, so that’s the bad star and the number two bad star is actually south so if you look at Europe. Italy, Spain. Bad really bad, this year if for tip again, free tip. If you want to stay we use the five elements to enhance health. So what I tell people “if you don’t see me, I can’t come to your house, put a— we use metal, real metal so I suggest people to buy a music box, the one that you turn that would give you a metallic noise. put it at the east of your house. If your bedroom is in the east, put it in the bedroom, the music box the one that you know the one I’m saying?
Darren: Yeah yeah yeah , I get it.
Allen: The metallic ones because I sometimes hear people use a metal clock. But sometimes metal clock is too annoying because it gives you that click
Darren: Okay, I see
Allen: It disturbs your sleep. So that’s one tip because using metal to enhance or to neutralize the bad star is in the East this year will be more effective.
Darren: To be honest like this is insane to think about that right it’s like wow, to east side and the star and everything that’s a lot of things to absorb, like do you have any source of material people can read on because even for myself like, you know, I’m kind of on the fence because I know nothing about Feng Shui. So do you have any resources that you can share with the audience or myself because like it’d be great to read onto it.
Allen: I sometimes post the things from my own personal observation like this year I actually posted something about the east , actually way back earlier this year. ] So when people are interested to read the stuff I post, you can follow me on Facebook, Instagram, which I will pass the information to you later on.
Darren: Okay, that’d be great. Thank you.
Allen: Your audience and fans can then go through Denzity.
Darren: That’d be great. I actually have one last thing just in my head right like I know this is about real estate, so how about investing right, I know the stocks are going down, do you know a similar way to predict the east and so on? Do you make a prediction on what sector is growing this year and stuff like that with Feng Shui knowledge that you have?
Allen: Again, let’s go back to the five elements. The five elements this year, the key element is metal. Metal means if you look at the precious metal market, you know, if you have, you know been observing, I mean, precious metal has gone up this year, and it’s done quite well. So I’m not an expert in investment. But I said metal will do pretty well this year.
Darren: I see.
Allen: So this is my observation out of the five elements.
Darren: That is interesting because like, I know nothing about Feng Shui and even listening to it, it’s kind of interesting, never thought that way. It’s just like different way of you know, approaching and obviously I hope the audience learns more about you. But before that because I know we have asked a lot of things, right? What kind of takeaway would you like the audience to have in this whole video?
Allen: Well, if your audience can go through you, Denzity, or Darren, I can offer you a discount for a Feng Shui inspection on a remote basis.
Darren: Oh, that’d be great. Thank you. On behalf of the audience, thank you.
Allen: I would tell your fans to look up Darren’s Denzity, to track me down and I give a nice cut.
Darren: That’ll be good. So like, I think you have a couple of links you sent to me and later on, I’ll post everything on the show notes. And I guess what’s the best way to find you among all that?
Allen: You can find me on WhatsApp which I’ll provide you the numbers and WeChat and also Facebook and also give you my email address.
Darren: Okay. I think that’s really great because even for myself I need to digest a little bit, and thanks for the time because it’s a subject that I’m sure everyone’s curious about and for myself and I really hope to learn from you another time and maybe next time we’ll have a long view taking that we can digest or even deep dive to something even more intrinsic. Yeah, I just want to say like, thanks for the time.
Allen: Thanks for having me again. Thanks for allowing me to share my knowledge on Feng Shui and I hope that fans will benefit from this.
Darren: I’m sure they do. Thank you so much. Okay, if that’s okay, I hope to talk to you next time then.
Allen: Thank you.
Darren: Have a good one. Bye.
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